Ty cobb al stump book

Al stump, commissioned in 1960 to ghostwrite ty cobbs. During the years in between, he became, according to al stump, the most shrewd, inventive, lurid, detested, mysterious, and superb of all baseball players. Sportswriter al stump ghostwrote cobb s biography, drawing from interviews cobb gave in the last year of his life. The major popular accounts of the last 20 years are al stump s cobb, on which the tommy lee jones biopic was based, and ken burnss time. A biography by al stump and ty cobb 1996, paperback. Based on stump s interviews with ty cobb while ghostwriting the halloffamers 1961 autobiography, this awardwinning new account of cobb s life and times reveals both the. Al stump was a writer who graduated from the university of. Born in georgia in 1886, cobb began his baseball career with the detroit tigers in 1905 and stayed in the big leagues until 1928all the time hated by his rivals and teammates alike because of his meanness. The film is told through the partnership between cobb and sportswriter al stump who served as a ghostwriter of cobb. A new cobb emergesmanyfaced and passionatein this important, original view of a figure well installed in baseball lore. Comparison of this list to the six specific items gifted to stump by ty cobb in the note of exhibit 3 raises the question of the legitimacy of stumps possession of these ty cobb collectibles. I read all 400 plus pages in three days of reading and it was very difficult to put down at the end of the night. Stump, al and a great selection of similar new, used and collectible books available now at great prices. This is the book that made me truly appreciate the game of baseball and ty cobb.

From this research, stump later went on to write at least two books and at least one. The true story would come a year later, after cobb s death, when stump wrote an awardwinning piece for true magazine about his time with cobb ty cobb s wild 10month fight to livewhich. Cobb once went into the stands to take on a heckler at a game in new york. Al stump, 79, sportswriter and chronicler of ty cobbs. Popular culture and hack author al stump who wrote cobb s biography in 1961 which. May 31, 2015 charles leerhsens biography of ty cobb reassesses the toxic reputation of one of baseballs greatest players.

Ty s dirty laundry daughter angered by cobb movie, book why dont they leave the private life alone and stay with daddys records and give him his due. The original music score was composed by elliot goldenthal. Al stump in recent years has proved to be a liar and a forger so sports historians are calling into question a great deal of his supposed insight into ty cobb. The other book is written by ty s grandson herschel cobb.

Stump spent time with detroit tigers hall of fame baseball player ty cobb in 1960 and 1961 collaborating on cobb s autobiography. And the myth grew further with the rise of the internetsearch for ty cobb on twitter and see what you find. Particularly, the number of stories about cobbs behavior a lot of people believe what they believe about cobb because stumps portrayal makes it seem so possible. That book made a lasting impression on me, and made me look at ty differently. Then came ken burns baseball documentary, which parroted stump and alexander. A noted case is the book written by sportswriter al stump in the months after cobb died in 1961. Five myths about ty cobb vintage detroit collection blog.

This 1994 book, also entitled cobb, was a huge bestseller and was excerpted in sports illustrated. This book came out shortly after cobbs death in 1961. The article, and later expanded book, further accused stump of numerous false statements about ty cobb, not only during and immediately after their 1961 collaboration but also in stumps later years, most of which were sensationalist in nature and intended to cast cobb in an unflattering light. I would go back to the original source materialthe newspaper accounts, documents, and letters that previous biographers had never really looked at. Six facts about the life and career of ty cobb historical. Stump also traded after the book was written in variety of lured stories. Thanks to the good work of folks at sabr, stump has been exposed, but unfortunately the book continues to have a wide circulation. Dec 18, 1995 al stump, the sportswriter and ghostwriter whose two versions of the life of ty cobb provided contrasting portraits of the tempestuous baseball immortal, died on thursday in hoag memorial hospital. Stump was later discredited when it became known that he had stolen items belonging to cobb and also betrayed the access cobb gave him in his final months. Stump said last year when his revised version of cobbs life came out. Al stump s book about ty cobb is a must for all baseball loving fans. May 03, 20 next time you get into a baseball conversation, here are some terrific stories you can tell about ty cobb. Al stump, 79, sportswriter and chronicler of ty cobbs life. First things first, this movie is based off of a book written by al stump, who is played by robert wuhl in the film.

Oct 07, 2016 and scps card was not even the version with the rare ty cobb. Usa today baseball weekly one of the most remarkable sports books ever written. Ty cobb biography life, family, children, parents, wife. The other book is written by tys grandson herschel cobb.

Ty cobb stories you can tell at parties nuckolball. The knife in ty cobbs back history smithsonian magazine. Stump s 1994 biography was ostensibly a set the record straight tome that purported to describe to the world the real ty cobb. Ty cobb was a magnificent ballplayer without a doubt but as for his personal life, well lets just say he had many, many issues. In his book, ty cobb, alexander chose to fabricate stories of cobbs run. Al stump redefined americas perception of one of its most famous sports heroes with this gripping look at a man who walked the line between greatness and psychosis.

Tys dirty laundry daughter angered by cobb movie, book. The true story would come a year later, after cobbs death, when stump wrote an awardwinning piece for true magazine about his time with cobbty cobbs wild 10month fight to livewhich. This book however clearly reveals that stump repeatedly and deliberately lied in order to deliver a more sensational product. Charles leerhsens biography of ty cobb reassesses the toxic reputation. Stump and cobb began work on the book titled, my life in baseball the true. Al stumps book about ty cobb is a must for all baseball loving fans. Not long before his death, ty cobb, as complex and haunted a human being as ever stepped onto a diamond, tapped a young writer named al stump to. I read all 400 plus pages in three days of reading and. Al stump was a reprehensible scumbag who unfortunately did not live long enough to be held fully accountable for his brutal distortion of the facts surrounding ty cobb s life in this biography. Al stump was the ghostwriter for the 1961 autobiography of baseball great ty cobb entitled my life in baseball. The second or current ty cobb museum was borne out of the negative publicity and legacy destruction that mr. Cobb died in july of that year, and in december stump published an article in true magazine that claimed to document the real, and really foul, character of. Aug 30, 2011 al stump, commissioned in 1960 to ghostwrite ty cobbs autobiography, my life in baseball. Later that year, al stump wrote a story for true magazine that portrayed cobb in a much.

The picture was written and directed by ron shelton and based on a book by al stump. Born in georgia in 1886, cobb began his baseball career wit. Al stump was a reprehensible scumbag who unfortunately did not live long enough to be held fully accountable for his brutal distortion of the facts surrounding ty cobbs life in this biography. Ty cobb, hall of famer, betrayed by writers for 50 years. Fifty years of believing al stumps version has made it difficult. The book sold well, but in december 1961, true magazine published a story by al stump, ty cobb s wild 10month fight to live, offering a lurid, behindthescenes and supposedly true. He was assigned by a publisher to work with cobb on an astoldto autobiography. Above, a partial listing of the ty cobb memorabilia items from the al stump collection offered or sold at various times between 1980 and 2001. Jul 17, 2011 ty cobb, hall of famer, betrayed by writers for 50 years. Cobbs most notorious biographer was a sports writer and author named al stump. Stump claimed to have been kidnapped by cobb and forced to write the book a particular way. This bison book edition of my life in baseball is introduced by charles c.

A biography by al stump and ty cobb 1996, paperback at the best online prices at ebay. Stump, ty cobbs ghostwriter for the 1961 autobiography my life in baseball, fleshes out the story in this bareknuckle, shocking biography. Alexanders mistakes and al stump, the ghostwriter of cobbs autobiography, who produced a fictionalized account so. Cobb is a 1994 biopic starring tommy lee jones as the famed baseball player ty cobb. A biography that was the basis for the film cobb starring tommy lee jones.

A true record was released shortly after cobb s death. In fact, cobb was a millionaire not because of baseball, but because he was a genius at. In cobb, stump tells how he was given a fascinating window into the georgia peachs life and times when the dying cobb hired him in 1960 to ghostwrite his autobiography. Stump spent time with detroit tigers hall of fame baseball player ty cobb in 1960 and 1961 collaborating on cobbs autobiography. Fifty years of believing al stump s version has made it difficult. The life and times of the meanest man in baseball was the impetus for the movie cobb, which starred tommy lee jones as ty cobb and robert wuhl as al stump. It was, after all, cobbs book, he said, so the sportswriter filed the murder confession. At any rate, leerhsen not only presents the most accurate but also the most well written account of ty cobb. Superbly reported, wonderfully written and often quite funny, charles leerhsens ty cobb.

Ohio university history professor, charles alexander, followed stumps first book in 1985 with a few falsities of his own. The life and times of the meanest man ever to play baseball has been called into question by experts. However, much of what stump wrote about cobb especially in the 1994 book upon which the movie is based, called ty cobb. The true record, would say it was a boozy, pillinduced, offtherecord confessiona secret revealed. His research was phenomenal, and his revelation of al stumps unreliability was wonderful. Stump, ty cobb s ghostwriter for the 1961 autobiography my life in baseball, fleshes out the story in this bareknuckle, shocking biography. Stump as collaborator, was published in 1961 as cobbs autobiography under the title my life in baseball. Youll learn that cobb wasnt all mad, and he could do very nice things when opportunities present themselves. Alexander, a professor of history at ohio university, athens, and the author of a biogrpahy of ty cobb. Popular culture and hack author al stump who wrote cobb. Tys dirty laundry daughter angered by cobb movie, book why dont they leave the private life alone and stay with daddys records and give him his due.

Cobbs biographer al stump told barry halper that this was the gun that mrs. Leerhsen asserts, and he did not hesitate to include unfounded legends about cobbs meanness. Stump spent approximately three weeks with ty cobb over. Cobb s most notorious biographer was a sports writer and author named al stump. What was one of the most memorable moments of ty cobb. The two things everyone knows about ty cobb are that he was a phenomenal baseball player and that he was the worst racist ever to play the game. I would find fresh examples of cobb being monstrous, blend them with the stories that al stump and others wrote, and come up with the first major cobb book in more than 20 years.

For his baseball documentary, ken burns used some information from stumps book. A terrible beauty, by charles leerhsen the new york. Al stump later claimed that this book, written with cobb and approved by cobb, was not the truth. Ty cobbs 1961 autobiography was the first book that al stump actually wrote. May 31, 2015 the two things everyone knows about ty cobb are that he was a phenomenal baseball player and that he was the worst racist ever to play the game. Alvin john al stump october 20, 1916 december 14, 1995, was an american author and sports writer. A terrible beauty, is a highly enlightening and highly enjoyable book. For his baseball documentary, ken burns used some information from stump s book. A terrible beauty, a book largely intended to rehabilitate its.

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